Back on the topic of the whole YibSims nonsense of EA, it will come as no surprise that with Inge Jones rattling the stick in the bucket about it, matters swiftly spilled over to the EA forum, where a certain well known World Adventurer took a trip to Cologne, passed Go! and got §200.
You stood up and said ‘thanks so much.’
Oh dear.
Fair enough though, it’s easy enough to get caught up in the atmosphere at times like this, and Rflong7/13’s fangirl flushings for the pin-up boy of the Simming doily set are hardly unique.
However, posts like these – and Rflong7/13 having changed her locations to ones that appeared rather Sims 4 fangirlish to the cynical eye (here’s the previous one that appeared from May onward) somewhat encapsulated the latent fears amongst some that those who went were going to end up like Simon Cameron’s definition of an honest politician, as the YibSims thread subsequently proved elsewhere.
Bit unfair the ‘praise the game beyond fandom’ charge, but Gamekitten’s post illiustrates the feeling amongst many that certain people had sold their Simming souls for a corporate freebie.
Matters were exacerbated as 3FansForever said by the ‘Top 40 Simmers’ line made by EA in their broadcast about those in attendance.
As Freudian slips go, this one was pretty damning – if anything betrayed how EA perceives its customers, this was it.
Conorsim was equally as annoyed by this ‘top player’ routine.
Rflong7/13 came along to do some damage limitation.
She went on to stress – like Crinrict before her – that she was not a YibSim – which was beginning to sound a dirty word and that if she wasn’t happy with things she’d say so – subject to the embargo, of course.
But as DarkMirage pointed out later, the whole ’embargo’ business is a piece of nonsense anyway. If anything is leaked out, how will they ever know which attendee did it? It could even be someone outside of their precious YibSims is already in the know – if their security at Gamescon is anywhere near like the security of their own website for Sims 4 proved!
By the pricking of our thumbs, something wicked this way comes…
Oh come off it Ruthless_KK, you know very well why you were picked – being a serial brown-noser and EA sycophant to the extent you were appointed a EA forum moderator with undue haste after another moderator resigned in principle over the handling of the Simspoints scandal in the autumn of 2010 – until of course you were sacked after the twin scandal of first using us to do your job instead of watching the forum properly, followed by your attempts to abuse your position to post false information on the EA forum and to post black press against Pescado as part of your arsebucket ‘master plan’ to get back at us for exposing you for the two-faced backstabber you are.
(Think we just about covered that one…)
No surprise to us that EA’s rounding up even disgraced past toadies – shows how desperate they were for anyone that would wag their tails to order, and they’d only be doing that if they feared what they had to show for themselves wasn’t much cop.
Poor LeeCoxall. Poor foolish mouse.
KMSim15 made a good post, but spoiled it with a quite flabberghasting viewpoint.
‘I love watching LGR’s videos and I really appreciate his honest opinions… But he is not just a Simmer, he reviews hundreds of other games.’
That’s supposed to be an argument justifying EA excluding him?
Surely to plumbob – as someone with an expertise in more than merely every single Sims 3 expansion and stuff pack to date (along with some other releases for it like Diagon Alley, er we mean Dragon Valley) – Phreakindee was exactly the sort of person they’d want along to get honest well honed feedback in preference to one-game anoraks?
One lot that were never to turn up in all this were the Simgurus themselves. As per usual when the manure truck hits the wind turbine, they’re nowhere to be found. They were even less likely to be found when Crinrict turned up and in a few short snappy sentences stated exactly what the privilege of being at SimCamp YibSim ‘Top Player’ really mean.
Rflong7/13 coroborated this version of events.
Everyone else got ten minutes to try the new Create A Sim? Why the hell did they even bother? How many demo computers did EA have at Gamescon – or did it not even stretch into the plural?
Doesn’t sound quite as good now, does it? Travel all the way to Germany to be allowed to jump the queue for a demo of the only part of the game they were happy to let them mess around with, and get to see some presentations on the other parts they could easily have saw on another of their half-arsed broadcasts (eventually!)
The discussion sprouted another attendee, in this instance SaraDeMoor the Sprout, also to say that she didn’t think being one of EA’s ‘chosen people’ made her above the rest.
Rflong7/13 elaborated that even with the embargo, EA still refused to answer them on occasions, as well as quite simply not having answers to give. With a year to go, you’d think they’d have all the answers for a new game slotted in for one of the quarters next year, right?
Meanwhile Inge Jones also made a rare appearence on the EA forum, realising what she’d said over at Mod The Sims had probably helped kick off events on the EA forum in the first place – albeit saying what plenty were muttering…
Crinrict elaborated further on what exactly had been embargoed.
But that’s what makes it all so silly. EA has released two videos of Sims 4, one of which bloody well shows the sort of animations to expect (translated: nothing we’ve not saw in Sims 2 or Sims 3 and none of it exactly groundbreaking or even wind breaking).
Therefore, why the coyness? Are they that paranoid about bad press? Or is it someone’s been reading their Ladybird Book of Business Psychology and reckoned if you tell their YibbleYibbleSims they’re party to a big sooper secret, they’ll be even more enthusiastic for the product than they otherwise would be.
Don’t knock it people, the sad truth is that it works.
People love to think they’re getting a march on others, even when they claim they’re don’t. Ask any store manager about the number of times they’ve done the same ‘daily deal’ to that one ‘special’ customer’ – ‘but please keep this to yourselves – I’d get fired if HQ ever found out!’ – who will doubtless tell their neighbours what a great store that one is.
For Cinebar, this was all a matter of what she’d been warning coming to pass.
For Roseridge the bottom line was this ‘top Simmers’ bumnuggetry was EA’s faux pas, not anyone elses and certainly not the attendees (although as Enjoji had mentioned before Sims VIP‘s obnoxious owner Alexurt had been rubbing everyone’s noses in it every opportunity she had – quelle surprise!)
Rflong7/13 made a very good reply that the community is only divided if it allows itself to be, and that it has always been divided anyway (which in the latter case is hardly an argument for a corporation encouraging it amongst their consumers but never mind…)
All that’s needed now is for Rflong7/13 to upload a video of her Simself singing Edith Piaf’s signature song!
Unfortunately both she and Crinrict truly ruined it for themselves with their disparagement of Phreakindee – whose non-invitation has been a major bugbear for many as the surest sign that EA has something to hide.
If ever there was a sign that some people have been suckered into barfing the EA corporate line – for all their protests – this was it.
As to Crinrict reiterating the ‘he’s a gamer, not a Simmer’ bullshit, do you honestly think EA – for all their ‘Top 40 Simmers’, ‘YibSims’ etc, care two flying ducks whether someone is a ‘Simmer’ or not so long as they’ll buy their products? And if they don’t, why the freaking plumbobs should anyone else get precious about it.
But let’s come to the crunch. If we’re going to start disparaging Phreakindee because Rflong7/13 feels he doesn’t somehow demonstrate ‘playing’ it enough (despite the extensive videos he produces showing that he does that have been watched by over 8 million people…), that cuts both ways. Rflong7/13 makes lots of worlds and homes for Sims 3, but how much does she actually play the game either?
Most of you will have guessed where this one’s now going… if you’ve shouted out the response we reckon you just did!
How can you Rflong7/13 and Crinrict – or anyone else – dare question whether someone else plays Sims 3 ‘enough’ for their opinion to be valid, when Sims 3 is a sandbox game where plenty of people will cherry pick the elements to play and all but ignore the rest.
Why is Phreakindee’s opinion less valid as a ‘gamer’ than for example Crinrict, who by her own admission doesn’t care a stuff about anything beyond base game? At least he has played them all – he’s got the videos to prove it! But is there anyone out there dumb enough to say that Crinrict did not deserve to go?
Halle_M and Crinrict crossed swords at this point, with Crinrict coming off very much the worse.
Crinrict’s responses became increasingly ludicrous.
Yes, Phreakindee confirmed he was NOT invited.
‘Would he represent you or his opinion?’
He’d be more likely to represent the opinion of the general Simmer than – for example – Alexurt or Ruthless_kk for starters that at best will only represent their own narrow circle jerk.
‘Not enough fan-base to be invited’?
With eight million views of his Sims 3 videos alone?As to what free time he may have to ascertain accurately what other Sims 3 players may want to represent them at Gamescon… again, the same question can be thrown right back at Crinrict, or anyone else that attended: unless EA has surveillence software hidden in Sims 3 relaying back to Redwood the amount of time people spend on Sims related websites and reading SIms related posts, the question is patently absurd.What does ‘prove’ having a ‘very deep insight’ into the Sims community’s wants, needs, hopes and fears anyway? We mean, we post practically bugger all on the EA forum but we can say we’re clued up enough on it from the fact that the bloody EA moderators have been caught out using us to help them police it!
As Halle_M put it, judging by Rflong7/13, Crinrict, SaraDeMoor and the others demonstration of ‘representing’ the Sims community up to now, they’d not impressed her for starters.And to be fair, Crinrict asked for that, especially after this:‘Their’ field and ‘their’ fans? And what ‘field’ or ‘fans’ does Alexurt represent? The ‘field’ of regurgiating every other Sims news site and passing it off as your own c/o ‘fans’ bought by ludicrous amounts of EA Store gifting? It may represent the sort of fanbase EA wants – one in dripslobber thralldom in return for the prospect of dispensed digital ‘rewards’, but it sure as hell doesn’t represent those found in the likes of – for example – Black Pearl Sims or Garden Of Shadows.
Which brings us all back to Inge Jones (and Cinebar’s) warnings about EA seeking to divide and conquer – and Rflong7/13’s that it will only happen if you allow them to…
For the record, we don’t believe every one of those that attended has been magically transmogrified into a fangasm squeeing sycophant.
You only have to look at Berrypie – High Priestess Of The Berry Sweet Cult and Keeper of The Ribenic Seal who had the time of her life there but will be right back to saying ‘did you see that crap EA’s got for sale in the Store now? No way am I touching that!’ this time next week. You know it. We know it. They’ve been trying to ‘buy’ her since 2009 and all the EA Site ‘interviews’ and ‘Featured’ uploads still haven’t turned her head.
But perhaps there are other matters Simmers need to look to regarding the events and aftermath of Gamescon. Not to Sims 4, but to themselves – attendees and non-attendees alike.
It may save a lot of unpleasanties later at a time the community can ill afford it.
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